Saturday, May 13, 2006

the Dukeries, Sherwood Forest.

We have forgotten just how important, centuries ago, The Midlands of England were. The Dukeries is the name given in the 18th century to a N.W. district of Nottinghamshire, England, because it contained the estates of no less than four powerful Dukes: The Duke of Newcastle - under - Lyme resided at Clumber Park; the Duke of Kingston at Thoresby Hall (also known as Thoresby House); the Duke of Portland at Welbeck Abbey; and the Duke of Norfolk at Worksop Manor. All these Dukes were descendants of Bess of Hardwick (1527 - 1608), for whom Hardwick Hall was designed

 Above: Clumber House, destroyed by fire 1879. Below: Clumber House built 1879, demolished 1938.
The Ducal seats of Thoresby, Clumber, Worksop, and Welbeck changed constantly over the decades, sometimes at the whim of the resident, sometimes fire. Clicking on the links will take you to more detailed information and pictures. For information about how the Dukeries were essentially brought about by Bess of Hardwick, see this link. Note: Although often referred to in accounts of the Dukeries, Rufford was not an actual ducal seat, but is included on this blog due to it's strong connections.

Above: Even within living memory, Sherwood Forest has seen much better days. For more information about the famous outlaws of Sherwood Forest visit the Robin Hood Blog. Also, for modern day videos of both Dukeries and Robin Hood related historic sites, visit my Youtube page.

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Blogger robin hood said...

The Dukeries. Clumber Park, Welbeck Abbey and Thoresby Estate.

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Blogger robin hood said...

Pierrepont, Manvers, Dukeries, Thoresby Hall, Thoresby Hotel, Thoresby Park, Perlethorpe, Perlethorpe Village.

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Blogger Pierrepont-Henson said...

Interesting stuff of fable and truth all rolled into one big picture ..
I believe Robin Hood was known to the Pierrepont Family and is why they were so endearing to the memory of him .. The Robin Hood statue, now within the courtyard and gallery area, once sat resting in the central green within the intimate grounds of Thoresby hall, at the main entrance. This can be seen in old photographs / booklets of the hall.

Yes our family did also share their family name .. distant or not so distant it's all so questionable .. There is a film in the Pierrepont Family history somewhere as it stems back to 1066 when 2 brothers arrived here as a part of William the Conqueror's task force and then years before in France.. And all to become extinct (1955) for the reason of the establishment .. As prior in 1945 our family connection had been sought. This our being relative is slowly, sadly, becoming a fabled belief too ..

Like a good film, this is where I came in ..

Bonn Soir Mon amis

Paul D. Pierrepont-henson
(Google it .. No Spam Please)

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Blogger robin hood said...

Hello Paul,

And thankyou for your comment.

Yes indeed, I am aware of the original site of the Robin hood statue, having spent the first 13 years of my life on the Estate. If you browse through the whole blog you will see several references to it. Also, mention of how the Pierrepont name arrived with William the Conquerer.

I shall indeed Google your name. And I wish you all the best.

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Blogger Pierrepont-Henson said...

I am sorry if you thought I was pulling you up, or suggesting you hadn't all the relevant info concerning Thoresby Hall (Hotel) etc. Not at all implied by myself, and to add, I am totally amazed at how in-depth the history of it all is detailed within the many pages you air..

Is it all your work?

I take my hat off to you and seriously, I was just having a soap box moment with my comments and not at all directed at anyone in particular.

Best wishes to yourself too

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Blogger robin hood said...

Hi Paul,

No I didn't take it that way at all, nor was I offended. I think these comment boxes sometimes make me sound a little "terse".

All my own work? My 13 years on the estate gave me a good knowledge, but I also make use of Jack Williams' booklet, and Clive Bollands notes, both of whom I credit on the sidebar. Also, now we have the internet, the sources of a lot of Mr Bollands' notes are accessible, and I credit these also.

For photographs I do go back to the estate and take my own, as well as raid the family album for old black and white shots.

The whole thing (along with Robin Hood), started as a simple project to learn how to use basic html. Now it's a kind of pleasant thing to update every now and again.

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Blogger Paul D. Pierrepont-Henson said...

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Blogger Paul D. Pierrepont-Henson said...

I see there is a photograph of the old lake that must have stood some where near to where the original Thoresby Hall that Sydney William Pierrepont 3rd Earl Manvers had demolished and had the new and now Thoresby Hall built further up the hill. In those photographs of the waters edge of the lake near Blaby you ask if the large stones as to whether or not are from the old Thoresby Hall? I always thought that the now Thoresby Hall wasn't built that far from where the old Hall had originally stood, and stood where the cricket pavilion is now.

I have also seen on one of my stays at Thoresby Hall Hotel (bar humbug)a painting hanging near to room 808, 2nd floor. The painting is a landscape, winters scene, showing the Hall in the back ground and the green bridge in the foreground ..

Perhaps we are on about the same lakes as there's a stretch of waater close to the green bridge and cricket pavilion ..

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